tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post3553856763449407832..comments2023-11-20T00:29:03.847-05:00Comments on MArooned: Things That Make Me Smile, Part IIJay Ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11085873775096542015noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-14070506570067929532011-08-04T08:25:47.533-04:002011-08-04T08:25:47.533-04:00Stretch:
Check out this site for more info on you...Stretch: <br />Check out this site for more info on your trapdoor - http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/<br /><br />1884's and 1888's were issued during the spanish american war so maybe you have something really special there.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-12368660578774054422011-08-03T21:55:07.535-04:002011-08-03T21:55:07.535-04:00Note to self: find sharppointy like on that SMLE (...Note to self: find sharppointy like on that SMLE (5th from left) for my Ishapore 2A.lee n. fieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01652025469454858807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-85718255553414909702011-08-03T21:41:39.611-04:002011-08-03T21:41:39.611-04:00McThad: British weapon nomenclature is as confusin...McThad: British weapon nomenclature is as confusing as cricket.<br />Took me lots of research to figure out my Enfield revolver was a No.2 Mk I*. Very handy when trying to introduce shooting to newbies. "How'd you like to shoot Capt. Jack Harkness' gun?" OK, his is a MkI-no-star but the women love the idea of shooting "such a cool gun." <br />Will have to dbl. check on Trapdoor. Has interesting markings on stock that lead me to believe it was used in Cuba by New York volunteers during the Spanish-American War.<br />Hey! This discussion is one of the reasons we LOVE collecting firearms.Stretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-7572433016573791282011-08-03T17:10:21.150-04:002011-08-03T17:10:21.150-04:00Oh, and I LOVE teh lawyered-up warning at the top ...Oh, and I LOVE teh lawyered-up warning at the top of teh first page of the USMC manual for teh OKC3.<br /><br />"WARNING<br />THE BLADE OF THE BAYONET IS EXTREMELY SHARP, IMPROPER USE COULD<br />RESULT IN DEATH OR PERSONAL INJURY"Geodkythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09328915597574377444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-21894293348076191642011-08-03T17:07:17.157-04:002011-08-03T17:07:17.157-04:00Les,
The current standard bayonets for grunts hav...Les,<br /><br />The current standard bayonets for grunts have blades that are 7" (M9, for most, adopted in 1984 by the Army) and 8" (OKC3 - adopted 2003, exclusive to the Marines). Both are basically Bowie-style field knives that happen to clip on the end of an M16. <br /><br />I happen to think the OKC3 is better -- heavier, longer, thicker, tougher blade without the weakening aspect of the wire cutter feature on the M9, a short section of serrations for rope cutting down by the choil, an oval (rather than round) handle, and a good balance for a bayonet being used as a wood- or commie- chopper. See https://pubs.ala.usmc.mil/pubs/50005576000.pdf, if you have a CAC card.<br /><br />The OKC3 is such a fine knife for the price (tthe contract requires the manufacturer to sell it on the open market at a reasonable price, so when PFC Snuffy loses his, or breaks it doing something stupid, he can replace it with a REAL one instead of getting some cheap Chinese crap copy), I'd buy it for a bush knife, even if I never intended to own something that could mount an M16 bayonet.<br /><br />The M4 (M1 carbine bayonet), (1953 adopted M1 Garand bayonet), M6 (M14 bayonet), and M7 (early M16 bayonet) are all basically just WWII M3 fighting knives with bayonet mounting hardware.Geodkythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09328915597574377444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-47245687240813697852011-08-03T16:58:48.212-04:002011-08-03T16:58:48.212-04:00I thought it was interesting that the 10" M1 ...I thought it was interesting that the 10" M1 bayonet was a stabbing tool only; the edges were not sharpened (as issued).Comrade Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-71872195977266675482011-08-03T13:15:36.740-04:002011-08-03T13:15:36.740-04:00Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I believe...Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the Trapdoor Springfield with the built in round rod bayonet is the Model 1888.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-73290581157010028332011-08-03T12:51:22.980-04:002011-08-03T12:51:22.980-04:00Stretch, FYI: There's no such thing as a SMLE ...Stretch, FYI: There's no such thing as a SMLE #4.<br /><br />It's Rifle Number 4 Mark 2.<br /><br />The other Enfield there would either be a SMLE Mark III _OR_ Rifle Number 1 Mark 3. Depending on what year it was.Angus McThaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-4849396244091224092011-08-03T12:47:16.889-04:002011-08-03T12:47:16.889-04:00One reason for the shortening of the bayonet is th...One reason for the shortening of the bayonet is the demise of cavalry on horses. The overall length of the gun/bayonet combination needed to have enough reach to get the rider.<br /><br />Then the rifles started getting shorter, ala SMLE.<br /><br />Then how much the longer blades weighed began to matter more and more...<br /><br />As Les indicated, it's been evolutionary.Angus McThaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-67811105760636753022011-08-03T11:01:57.131-04:002011-08-03T11:01:57.131-04:00When I first attached the bayonet to my Mosin 91/3...When I first attached the bayonet to my Mosin 91/30 I realized that the rifle was designed with very close contact against the enemy in mind.<br /><br />tw: diess, as in, anyone stabbed by the Mosin bayonet diessssss.mikeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-10335718596727403652011-08-03T11:00:35.423-04:002011-08-03T11:00:35.423-04:00FYI from left to right they are:
Martini-Henry dat...FYI from left to right they are:<br />Martini-Henry date stamped 1877<br />M1884 Trapdoor<br />M96 Swedish Mauser dated 1911<br />Spanish Mauser<br />SMLE No.1 Mk.III<br />SMLE No.4 Mk.II<br />'03 Springfield<br />M1917<br />Springfield M1A<br />The short sword at top is an Ames artillery sword dated 1862. It was made in Mass.<br />The Trapdoor has a spike bayonet that slides into fore stock. One can understand why Teddy Roosevelt objected to such a design on the '03. I didn't even bother to extend it in the presence of all the other blades. Too embarrassing.<br />Not all weapons are mine.Stretchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-35918385034669035842011-08-03T10:40:55.347-04:002011-08-03T10:40:55.347-04:00Well, in the space of a 100 years, the U.S. has go...Well, in the space of a 100 years, the U.S. has gone from 16" Bayonets to the current issue 6.75". Many good reasons for it, but I still think that when the Ammo Fairy doesn't give you an Airdrop....remind me to tell you this weekend how my MP Buddy used Bayonets in Iraq a few years ago. Hint: they weren't opening Crates.Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-54280806589206473812011-08-03T10:26:24.254-04:002011-08-03T10:26:24.254-04:00Maybe for the following Friday. Lyudmila is still...Maybe for the following Friday. Lyudmila is still rather greasy from all the cosmoline. Here's a thought . . . . we can take a pic on Sunday !!!<br /><br />Word Verify . . . PINSTIC, as in getting tagged with Lyudmila's stabby would be one hell of a pin stick !!!!<br /><br /> - BradBrad_in_ILhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13252010917952350450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-21326881543862813872011-08-03T10:05:17.533-04:002011-08-03T10:05:17.533-04:00Get me a pic for Friday!Get me a pic for Friday!Jay Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11085873775096542015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3596231821271459872.post-5221743606746205742011-08-03T10:03:10.463-04:002011-08-03T10:03:10.463-04:00Jay,
I picked up Lyudmila last night . . . her s...Jay, <br /><br />I picked up Lyudmila last night . . . her stabby is almost as long as her barrel !!!!<br /><br /> - BradBrad_in_ILhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13252010917952350450noreply@blogger.com