I don't see it happening.
I haven't seen it yet. I've seen Bob Dole, part deux this entire campaign. Obama's got a veritable truckload of material to use against him: Fannie Mae execs on his campaign; money given to ACORN for voter fraud; virulently anti-gun; Tony Resko; etc. And yet McCain choses to harp on stupid stuff.
Meanwhile, Obama has sat back, claimed McCain is the third Bush term, and let the media cover his ass completely. This is apparent to anyone without an agenda. So McCain has to work three times as hard - instead, he's just rolling over and dying. Just like Dole. Or GHWB in 1992.
John McCain, I implore you. Do not repeat the mistakes of those failed campaigns. Please do not give us President Barack Obama...
And now, for the debate. I'm setting up this post with 10-minute increments and will try to place my comments accordingly. Since comments are automatically dated, they should mesh. Somewhat...
Here we go!
Pre-debate: Opening this up 15 minutes before the start. Got the laptop ready. TV on and tuned to Fox News. Gonna call sci-fi in about 10 minutes. Let's get it on!
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Five minutes until we start the debate. This is going to be... interesting...
9:00 PM: Here we go...
Holy crap, Schieffer looks like "an old apple" (sci-fi)
(he quantifies, "a nice old apple")
And, once again, Obama gets first intro...
Gee, didn't see that coming. More economy.
Just for once, I'd like to see someone mention, oh, rampant ACORN voting fraud or 8 years on the Board of Directors for the Joyce Foundation...
UGH. I was hoping McCain was going to stop pushing the socialism. Guess not. The gov's going to swoop in and save us from our bad decisions.
Not exactly giving me reason to vote for you, John...
And Obama's turn...
Oh, not this tax break shit again. Barry, it's your party's high taxes that force companies overseas to begin with. John, please hit him with this. NAFTA???
"Our energy policy is giving our wealth away"????
Bringing up the plumber... Interesting... I didn't see that coming.
9:10 PM: Weer'd points out that Barry's hitting the "uh"s awfully early...
YES!!! "We need to spread the wealth around"... WHAMMO!
John, if you want to deflate Barry's "95% get a tax break", mention that the first 45% don't pay taxes in the first place.
Then follow up by asking where he's going to get the money for his new programs with only the top 5% having increases...
Did Obama just say he didn't want to pay taxes? I hear there's no taxes in Communist countries, since the government owns all the money...
Obama? Specifics? Apparently Bob didn't get the memo that we are not to question The One...
Obama's spending cuts. Right. Say goodbye to the US military, folks...
AUGH! The government has no business doing JACK SHIT about home values, John!!!
9:20 PM: Whoa. Obama didn't look happy when they panned over to him...
Earmarks... They need to be eliminated. JOHN... Please point out to Barry how many earmarks YOU have had, vs. his number...
(from b, sci-fi's better half: McCain is doing well tonight. I concur).
OUCH! Let's look at our records, Senator Obama. HAMMER TIME!
Where has this John McCain been so far this campaign???
What does tort reform or charter schools have to with balancing budgets or cutting spending?
sci-fi points out that it only took 23 minutes for Obama to take a swipe at Fox.
8 more years of the same? He's giving McCain a lot of credit there...
"Your record of standing up to the leaders of your party isn't convincing" WHAM!!!
He ***DID*** "pal around with terrorists". UGH.
Comparatively speaking, McCain is ON FIRE tonight...
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was hoping McCain would HAMMER Obama for that bit from Lewis...
Wow. McCain is bringing out the BIG hammer tonight... Holy crap...
I GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE Obama will be called the winner of this debate, too...
And Barry's response? 3 minutes of "uh".
100% have been negative. That's going to be tough to prove, Barry.
We can debate health care or the economy. Just not anything that makes me look bad, like foreign policy or gun control...
9:30 PM: NO SHIT you want to see the next three weeks focusing on the economy. The media's already assured that's gonna happen.
McCain's back on the attack, and he's doing it in a slick, careful way. WHY has he waited until now???? Why hasn't this John McCain been running the whole time???
OH WAH! Poor Barry and those eeeevil racist Republicans.
Don't laugh, John... It wicked looks bad...
OOH! McCain goes to bat for the people at the rallies... Whoa... NOTICE that McCain does NOT throw his supporters under the bus when the going gets tough. {cough}{cough}Jeremiah Wright...
And he tosses it back at Obama. Good.
Wow, could Obama look more smug? Is that even possible?
Why not just say worst financial crisis in the history of Western Civilization? It's not like the media is going to, you know, investigate your claim...
ACORN!!! YES!!!! Voter fraud!! NAILED!!! John McCain just PWNED Barry!!!!
And Barry's response?
Apparently what they've done? THE DALLAS FUCKING COWBOYS were registered in LAS VEGAS!
Uh, Barry? Weren't you employed by ACORN??? As a trainer of some sort? What, exactly, did you train people to do?
YES! Board of the Woods foundation with Ayers!
9:40 PM: Joe... Biden... is "one of the finest" public servants?!?!?!?
Was Joe "fighting for the little guy" when he penned the idiotic Assault Weapons Ban?
Energy Independence has been languishing since Barry was a pimply faced teenager, but he's all of a sudden going to get it going???
YES. Bring up Sarah's record... That's enough.
Special needs children. Good response, John.
"She's uh obviously uh a {pause}..." Barry's rattled...
Notice Obama didn't answer the question as to whether Palin was qualified - he went off on the "spending cuts will stop all research" tangent...
That entire question was quoted from a T. Boone Picken's commercial... (sci-fi)
Reduce foreign oil - eliminate ME oil and Venezuelan oil. I like that plan, John... More nuclear plants, good.
PLEASE bring up Cape Wind and Kennedy's opposition... Oh well...
Off to Barry... He STARTS by changing the question. Odd. How many "THE most important issue"s does this make now?
I think we need to worry more about poisoned baby formula from China than oil, but that's just me...
9:50 PM: Is Barry honestly claiming that South Korea is not importing more American cars because of TARIFFS??? SRSLY?
And could someone please bring up WHICH PRESIDENT signed NAFTA into law AFTER browbeating us for MONTHS about how needed it was???
Wow, it's a good thing I'm not doing a shot every time Barry says "uh"...
And ANOTHER "highest priority".
WHAMMO!!! Nailed on Chavez!!! Heh.
Gee, the government did such a great fucking job with the mortgage and banking industry, we really want them handling our health care, don't we?
John, please tell me you've looked up MA and Deval's mandatory health care and the associated cost overruns...
McCain response... Escalating costs... Not health care centers and online records, John!
Is it just me, or does McCain seem to be losing steam? I think it's past his bedtime...
10:00 PM: And he brings back Joe the plumber! Wow!
YES! He brings up mandatory health care... and mentions fines.
WHAMMO! Single payer... And England and Canada.
Wait a minute. Isn't it already law that large companies have to provide health care??? Maybe that's just MA...
Hey! McCain just pointed out that the Democrats are in charge of Congress. Haven't had that pointed out much these days. The only way it could have been better would have been for McCain to point out that the same Congress has single-digit approval ratings...
And onto abortion and the litmus test for the USSC. Interesting. McCain says no.
WHAT did McCain just say? The decision should rest in the states? What kind of dangerous subversive thinking is THAT??? BAM!!! Hits Barry AGAIN! Body blow! Body blow! Finish him off!
Careful, John. When President Obama nominates Hillary! as USSC Chief Justice you may have to eat those words...
Roe vs. Wade was rightly decided? Of course - if you believe that the fedgov should trump the state at all issues...
NAIL HIM. Our second amendment rights MOST CERTAINLY are relegated to the state level. Ask him if IL's refusal to grant CCW should be overturned by the feds...
10:10 PM: Oh man... McCain's going there... Wow... The born-alive vote... And follows it up with voting "present". WHAM!
And he hits Obama AGAIN for voting "present". YES!!!!!! Damn!
WHERE HAS THIS JOHN MCCAIN BEEN?!?!?!?!?!
Obama's mad. Wow. He voted for it before he voted against it. Ah. Yes, ask John Kerry how that worked for him... And if it was already law, why couldn't you vote for the next one?
OBAMA WILL BAN ABORTION!
There ***WAS*** an exception for the mother. That's the single most pernicious lie about partial birth abortion...
Did he just say that "sexuality is sacred"??? ORLY?
McCain brings up his adopted daughter. Wow. Didn't see that coming!
Last question? I have 10:15 on my clock; is it going to take that long?
Education. Yet another debate come and gone with no mention whatsoever of gun control...
And Obama's solution? Throw more money at the teachers (unions). Wow. How innovative. If only that hadn't been the boilerplate Democratic response since, oh, the turn of the last century....
What the heck did he just say about having a mortgage before you buy a house? I missed it...
Did Barack Obama just say parents should take responsibilty?
And did he say turn off video games? Like the ones he's advertising in?
McCain hitting school choice. Good. COMPETITION. Yes. That's what is needed. Bring up MERIT pay and I'll be happy...
Throwing money - YES! The worst systems get the most money - that is DEFINITELY true in MA - check out what each town spends on students. Now look up performance, let's say, graduation rates. Pick a few towns and see how spending correlates to graduation.
Here's a hint. The towns that spend the most don't graduate the most. Lawrence is the single worst city - 40.8% graduate rate. They spend in the top 10% per pupil, though.
Money is not the answer.
10:20 PM: Okay, went off on a tangent there. Missed a chunk there, but it sounded a lot like Obama just advocated throwing more money at the problem.
And McCain SLAMS Obama yet again...
10:30 PM: Final statements...
McCain: Hitting reform. Good. CFR. Bad. Careful steward of tax dollars. Good.
Stop spending. Also good, but will be used against him.
Trust. Ouch... Pushing service, good.
And Obama's turn. Hits the economy again. Last 8 years. Blah blah blah.
Worst economic crisis EVAH. And yet, the Democratically controlled Congress has done nothing.
Anytime a Democrat says "tax cuts for the middle class", my wallet hurts...
Then again, I remember the Cellucci/Harshbarger campaign, where Harshbarger's definition of a "rich" person was a family making over $27K a year (in Massa-fucking-chusetts)...
Post-debate: Wow. Why haven't this John McCain sooner? Why? For the love of G-d, please let this John McCain stay on the trail and not the frail old dude in the last campaign...
McCain is CLEARLY the winner IMHO. He hammered Obama on key points, countered Obama's attacks successfully, and made good, strong points for himself.
However, I don't think it was enough to help him very much. Had we seen this John McCain at all three debates, though, we'd have a completely different race today...
And Bill Kristol brings up an excellent point - Bill Clinton promised a "middle class tax cut" and then delivered a tax hike...
Okay. I think that's enough for tonight.
That is all.
11 comments:
barry's already dropping the "uhs" like crazy.
Does Obama know the President doesn't have line item veto authority?
100% of McCain's Ad's are negative?
Damn, I hope the American people are smart enough not to fall for that dumb statement!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpyOSLZw8qo
There's a positive one right there!
That was easy, and I didn't even have to miss a question!
Wow the mention of the nasty T-shirts and slogans of the Acolytes really got Barry reeling!
Count the Uh's!
he just dropped Scranton again. Didn't Biden move out of there when he was 11?
Obama just lied his mutherfucking ass off. He voted against the born alive act. It's up to the legacy media to report this.
He.
Lied.
His.
Ass.
Off.
RW, he always lies his ass off. Every frigging thing he says is a frigging lie. He WILL try to ban guns, he WILL raise taxes on everyone, he WILL force you into "Obamacare", he WILL run from the enemies of our nation, he WILL gut the military, he WILL appease our enemies, he WILL stifle free speech.
This guy is not only a liar, he's a creep.
Jay, thanks for a nice recap. I didn't get to watch the debate and appreciate your perspective.
Bill Kristol nothing, I made the Bill Clinton point months ago. It's sad that people don't seem to remember when Bill Clinton sold us that bag of nothing.
the fact that anyone is praising McCain for his performance in the third debate proves that he and Palin have lowered people's expectations down to nothing (don't forget, the VP debates were a tie!)
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