Friday, January 8, 2010

Outta the Paaaahhk.

Robb over at Sharp as a Marble has what I consider to be the definitive post on felons and gun ownership. Money quote:
If you are such a danger to society that simply being in a home with a firearm is a crime, you should not be out loose in society. Period. We release people from jail because we consider them to no longer be a threat to those around them. If they are a threat, why are they out in the first place.

That is exactly my sentiment on the whole shebang. Someone "safe" enough to be released from prison and let out among the general population had better damn well better be "safe" enough to own a gun. If they cannot be trusted with a firearm, how the hell can we trust them with a butcher knife, a chainsaw, or an automobile? If they're so dangerous that we deny them one tool, we should deny them all tools - and at that point, we might as well keep 'em in jail, no?

Go. Read. It's well worth the time.

That is all.

4 comments:

Weer'd Beard said...

Yep, there are a gazillion laws and polices that are specific to guns...yet the vast amount of crimes and violence that are committed with other tools really makes those considerations seem stupid.

I tell a lot of people the story of one afternoon I went to Four Seasons. Bought 5 pounds of Red Dot powder, was asked to produce my permit. I did, and paid and left. Drove across the street and bought about 12 gallons of gasoline. By swiping my card at the pump.

W T F OVER?

jimbob86 said...

It's the Compromise Position of the The GFWs: They FEEL nobody should have guns, because guns are "icky"....... If they can't achieve that, they'll settle for restricting guns from as many people as possible: Felons, Wifebeaters, Non-LEOs, parents in a nasty custody battle, anybody who has EVVAR had any legal troubles at all, Republicans, Libertarians .... they do not FEEL that they should lablel teh people in question "icky": that would be Un-PC. They KNOW deep down in their Better Than You Hearts that it's the icky Eeeevil gun that made the people do the Bad Thing.

The vonMaur Monster was not a drug addled Evil POS.... he was a "troubled youth". The Villain of Virginia Tech was not a Narcissistic Evil POS .... he was "mentally ill". These GFWs KNOW that the guns made them do it:

It's Hoplophobia, and it's a Mental Illness.

Mikael said...

Well you need a permit for the car too, but the 12 gallons of gasoline can sure make a big boom.

Other than that, the most easily procured weapon of mass destruction is probably a tie between Chlorine+Ammonia and just plain ol' nitrogen fertilizer. Depends if you want a boom or a gas cloud.

Rick R. said...

I could see banning weapons possession (and voting, and having the freedom to move when and wherever you like without asking the gov't, freedom of association, and other grown up responsibilities reserved for sovereign adults) for someone still under sentance. The gun banning makes the LEAST sense of all those -- but I can see it as a cheery on the sundae, "You're still a prisoner, even if you get to sleep at home becuase of your good behavior."

Not because gun ownership is inherently bad -- but as part of teh whole, "When you prove you're ready to act like a law abiding grown up, we'll start treating you like a grown up. Don't like the halfway lifestyle? You can be remanded back to finish your outstanding sentance any time you like."

I don't see the rationale in a lifetime ban on someone who is "safe" enough to be allowed out in society without having to check in with his warden (i.e. paroe/probation officer) every week or so. No justification whatsoever.

Once you've served ALL your time (including your full parole or probation), I say, reintegrate them FULLY into society.

Too dangerous to be reintegrated fully into society? Why the Hell are we letting him out so early, then?

If Crime A is an indication that you are likely dangerous for life (say, child molestation, where it wasn't a case of 18 year old high school senior getting caught with his 17 and a half girlfriend -- think Roman Polanski), then your sentance should reflect that lifelong danger. Which might mean, the same time actually served, but parole continues indefinately to finish out your "life" sentance, if we think you can be controlled outside under parole restrictions, but don't think you could be controlled as a sovereign citizen.

Of course, I also believe that any parole or probation should be for a longer time (say, about double) than that unserved time remaining from the original sentance. Violate parole/probation? Back in the slam for your unserved time (taking into account the 1:2 time served ration for parole/probation successfully completed).

Want to cut a convict's sentance short as a reward for especially outstanding behavior, without merely paroling him? There's this little thing called "commutation". . . A parolee is NOT "free" -- he's merely out of prison. It's OK to keep "prisoner" restrictions on him as a condition of his parole.

Even if they are stupid. He's free to reject parole and finish his time behind bars, if it gets him 100% free sooner. . .