Friday, July 30, 2010

Nothing Says Stop...

...like a 230 grain hollowpoint followed by many other 230 grain hollowpoints.

Police: Man under influence of drug stomps on cars
BRIDGEPORT -- A overweight city man was arrested Tuesday evening after he, under the influence of an hallucinogenic drug, went berserk and climbed onto locals' cars, jumped up and down and smashed them in, police said.

In one case, there were two babies strapped into their car seats under the roof that Ricardo Hylton partially collapsed, according to police reports.

Pop quiz: When the heavyset, drug-crazed lunatic starts attacking you in your vehicle with your young children inside, which would you rather have in your hand:

1. A cell phone to call 911;
2. A canister of pepper spray;
3. A taser;
4. Nothing but the knowledge of hand-to-hand combat; or
5. A 1911 stocked with .45 ACP +P jacketed hollowpoints?

If you chose anything other than #5, you've chosen poorly:
Lula ran beside Hylton, unsuccessfully ordering him to stop. He pepper-sprayed the suspect to no effect. Running in the middle of the street, Hylton then stopped and did about 10 jumping jacks but was not affected by another pepper spray blast.

By this time, other police officers were on scene and boxed him in. But they couldn't get Hylton under control because he was shirtless, struggling and too slippery from sweat for the usual compliance holds, a police report stated. After he again ignored orders to stop walking, an officer tased him to no avail, drive-stunned him with the Taser, and tased him two more times.

Got that? He was pepper-sprayed twice, grappled with multiple officers, *and* Tasered, and yet still remained combatitive. Remember this when it's just you against him, with your young children at risk... Now, certainly, a firearm is not a magic talisman. Pointing at the deranged drug addict very well may not scare him off; heck, even shooting him might not stop him immediately. But it beats the hell out of watching him do freaking jumping jacks after being pepper-sprayed. Something tells me that 9 rounds of .45 ACP +P will have a significantly better chance of slowing him down than a chemical deterrent. There's just something about the psychological effect of watching one's own blood spill forth that naturally takes the fight out of a person...

I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone, I carry a gun because I don't want to have to beat them to death with a rock I found on the side of the road. I'm just a humanitarian that way...

That is all.

Thanks to Mopar for the link!

9 comments:

Matt said...
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Matt said...

.45 ACP +P, .357 Magnum, .38 Spc, doesn't really matter.

That .380 in your pocket is better than the .45 in your safe.

*reminds himself to schedule his CDWL class*

Mike W. said...

I'll stick with standard pressure
.45ACP and I use 185 grainers. JMB would hate me, but they'll get the job done.

Weer'd Beard said...

Yep chalk up another argument against "less lethal" defensive tools.

Hell this was even the ideal circumstance as there was plenty of backup so even if he was just dazed for a second by the less-lethals they could have cuffed him.

No matter what people who are concerned about their safety should carry a reliable firearm, and a cellphone to call for help after the attack has been defused.

Also note that "Big Drugged Out Guy" is hardly a creature isolated in "Bad Neighborhoods", there are just as many spoiled rich-kids getting their hands on SCORES of crazy drugs, and maybe overdoing the dosing a bit. This is just a big a danger in the lily-white suburbs as it is in "Gang-land".

And there isn't any rational talk that will convince a 250lb highschool football player who got doped to the gills on acid that you are not a sharp stick and he is not a marshmallow, and there are no campfires that are going to roast him.

And yeah any gun you have on you is better than a gun you don't have.

That being said 230 gr bonded JHPs loaded into a .45 ACP +P is about as good a defensive handgun load you're gonna find outside of "Bear Gun" category.

Old NFO said...

Weerd said it better than I, but I agree with him 100%!!!

Lissa said...

My version?

I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone, I carry a gun because I don't want THEM to beat ME to death with a rock they found on the side of the road. I'm just a survivalist that way...

Stingray said...

"which would you rather have in your hand:"
...
6. The keys to the car I'm in so I can get the hell out of there. "WhunkWhunk" as he goes under the wheels is much easier on the ol' eardrums than "BANGBANG" of a .45 in an enclosed space. Especially kid ears.

Stretch said...

Police buddy encountered a thug hopped up on PCP. Thug raised knife and attacked. At about 10 feet cop fired a 158gr. .357 magnum round. Autopsy confirmed the round hit the sternum, THE HEART and stopped a fraction of an inch shy of the spine. Thug covered the remaining distance and slashed with such force the pens in uniform pocket were cut in 2. Thank G*d for kevlar vests.
Second .357 round hit thug in side and spun him to the ground. The guy then TRIED TO GET UP and didn't stop until he bled out after 30-45 of the longest seconds of my buddy's life.
I doubt the PCP-juiced scum would have even noticed pepper spray or a Taser.
"When in doubt empty the magazine"

Mike W. said...

My brother got called once a few years back to assist a female officer trying to arrest a guy on PCP.

It took the woman, my brother, and a 3rd cop to subdue the guy and get him cuffed.

My bro said he was wailing on the guy with his ASP and may as well have been poking him with a stick.

Of course he was in immense pain once the drugs wore off and he was in the hospital with a bunch of broken bones. (2 broken legs)