Monday, March 19, 2012

Real Life Torture Tests...

Unc links to a torture test where an AR-15 had been run over by a truck and still worked fine. This struck me as interesting, because a lot of the time when you read about a "torture test", it's some extreme situation where the vast majority of gun owners simply aren't going to find themselves in that spot. I don't store my guns in the freeze, nor the broiling pan of my oven. I don't bury my 1911 in the yard, nor do I shoot my Glock underwater.

So I got to think, what are some other "real life" torture tests?


  • The "shot corrosive ammo through it and forgot to clean accordingly" test.

  • The "left in the back of the safe for 10 years" test.

  • The "Hey, I just got this box of really old ammo, let's shoot it" test.

  • The "bounced around in a plastic box in the trunk of my car for 5 years" test.

  • The "forgot to clean it the last time I shot really dirty ammo through it and it sat for years" test.
What other "real life" tests can you think of that you'd like to see (someone else) tried out?

That is all.

19 comments:

ZerCool said...

"Knocked it off the range bench onto the concrete (six times)."
"Banged the muzzle off the upright at the range."
"Dropped my shotgun in the runoff from the cow paddock." (btdt)
"Chambered a .357sig in a .40/.40 in a .45/etc."
"Gun-show reloads."

Bob S. said...

Have a new shooter take it apart and put it back together again.

Miguel said...

Make it listen to The Squirrel Report?

J/K

Dave H said...

Bob S: No way. DIYers are the only thing that keeps gunsmiths in business.

My recommneded tests:

1) Biochemical compatibility. Test unit is carried 16 hours per day for one year by a hairy, sweaty, overweight man from Ohio. Minor finish wear is acceptable; pitting, corrosion, or off smells are not.

2) Pocket detritus. A loaded handgun is rotary tumbled in a mixture of coins, keys, folding knives, wrapped chewing gum, and pocket lint for 7 days. Test unit shall have safety off unless it is designed to be carried cocked and locked. No discharges are acceptable.

3) Stealth systems. Unit is shot at a busy public range for 2 hours by a person of low to average attractiveness without being asked "what'cha shootin?" more than three times.

(I took my PSL out yesterday and couldn't shoot more than 10 minutes without being asked about it.)

Dave

Bob H said...

Put a pair of PX4s (loose, not secured in the box) in a locked metal box and drop it off the side of an 85 degree stone covered slope 3,000 high.

This will simulate what happens when you are rear ended by an SUV hard enough to snap the bolts on the permanently installed gun locker in the rear of your Scion coupe, while driving on a curving mountain highway and the locker is ejected off the side of the road.

Note: Driver and passenger both had only bumps, bruises and one cut (4 stitches). The car was totalled.

The guns? I am not sure yet. The police have just completed their investigation and I have to go back to PA to collect them.

Butch Cassidy said...

1. The "FFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu-I just dropped my loaded carry piece down a flight of stairs!!" test.

2. The "I just fell off my bicycle and landed on my carry piece, on pavement, at 20 MPH" test.

3. The, "I just fell in the river, had to drag myself out, and it took two hours to get home" test.

4. The "I just stepped on my magazine at the range" test.

All of my carry pieces have passed #2-4 and I have been lucky enough to not experience #1, yet.

Lupis42 said...

The "Carried on the boardwalk, and decided to jump in the water & roll in the sand 8 hours from home" test.

The "Gunshow reloads roulette" test.

The "Carrying case failed walking down the dirt path in mud season" test.

The "5000 rounds of lacquered ammo followed by a box of brass" test.

The "I heard you can clean guns with %substance" test.

The "%brand/model doesn't need cleaning" test.

Weer'd Beard said...

Clean only with WD-40 and carry it in holster and pockets every day for months at a time while it collects every piece of lint and crud within miles before the lubricants completely dry test.

Bubblehead Les. said...

Using one of Zercool's 12 gauge loads in your Shotgun Test.

Or firing a Semi-Auto Jam-a-matic Sten Gun, then keep being told "It's the Ammo! You're Using the Wrong Ammo!", then seeing the look on the Owner's Face when Jams and falls apart in HIS Hands with HIS Ammo Test!

Sigivald said...

I don't even know where to find corrosive .223.

Did anyone ever manufacture any?

(Besides, new AR barrels are [relatively] inexpensive and easily replaced!)

Pakkinpoppa said...

I did the "fire a bajillion* rounds of laquered ammo then a box of brass test".

It actually didn't make it through the first magazine before I had the need for a broken shell extractor. Which I didn't have, it was at home. Fortunately, the next round that loaded into the front half of the shell worked as such. I'll have to send a pic of that, I kept it for posterity's sake...as in, clean the f*cking gun. Those were the days, though...109 a case for 223 Wolf, 80 for the 7.62x39, sometimes even out the door when it was close to closing time at the "fun shows"...why I didn't buy ten skids and 20 of those SAR rifles when I had the chance...

*Okay, it wasn't a bajillion rounds, but it was either 900 or 1200 rounds out of a SAR-3 (how I miss you...both of you) (And I forget the round count as it was either 3 or 4 range trips with about 300 rounds each before trying some good ol' white box.)

Matthew said...

1) Biochemical compatibility. Test unit is carried 16 hours per day for one year by a hairy, sweaty, overweight man from Ohio. Minor finish wear is acceptable; pitting, corrosion, or off smells are not.

On the gun or on the carrier?

Matthew said...

Blued "bear protection shotgun", camping above the high-water mark on the beach for a week or so.

Will the action open when you get back to the mainland and go to put it in your car?

Anonymous said...

The "I don't really have to degrease the firing pin assembly on my SKS before firing it, do I?" test.

That, and the lintwad blockage test.

~ The Senator

Exurbankevin said...

"Y'know, they SAY it's not rated for +P+ ammo, but I figure let's try it and see what happens."

Daniel in Brookline said...

The Cornered Cat test: drop it in an Appleseed Shoot port-a-potty. Simulate a shooter with an overdeveloped "ewww, gross" factor by leaving it there for an hour or so.

Anonymous said...

The disarmed by police test. Have the gun owner holster the gun normally, then lay on the ground. Have a volunteer kneel on his back while shouting obscenities until the gun owner loses feeling in his hands and feet, and then have the volunteer disarm the gun owner. The disarmer is not allowed to try to figure out retention holsters, but should only be encouraged to pull harder. If the disarmer accidentally engages the trigger and fires the gun, that counts as the gun owner resisting arrest.

Ambulance Driver said...

The "Mistakenly Put My 870 Away In a Wet Gun Case After The Season" test.

I was horrified to see how pitted it was when I pulled it out in June.

After I got over how ugly it was, I decided to see how long an 870 could go without so much as a wipe-down before failing.

And the answer to that is 5 hunting seasons.

Five hard seasons, with gun exposed to mud, grime, outboard motor fuel, lint, trash and honeybun crumbs.

In all that time, I never ran a brush through it, never even wiped it down. The most I did was hold it under whatever water I was standing in and work the action a few times to rinse out the grit and unburnt powder that sometimes collected in the trigger group. It never kept the gun from firing, but you could feel it in the trigger pull, or when it got really dirty, when you ran the slide.

On opening day of the 5th season, after maybe 7 cases of steel and lead shot, it failed to eject a plastic-cased Activ shell, and I had to disassemble the gun and ram out the fired hull with a cleaning rod.

I fully cleaned it standing in 3 feet of river water right then, put my cleaning kit away in my blind bag, and went back to hunting.

Hasn't even hiccuped since.

Anonymous said...

How about the "it was black coffee so I'll just wipe it down and finish reassembling it" test? And no, I will not fire that person's weapons nor eat their cooking.

LittleRed1