Friday, February 5, 2010

Friday Fun Thread: Other Euro Cars...

I was about to wrap up my tour of Europe when I ran headfirst into an Italian conundrum. With the plethora of beautiful cars from Ferarri, Lamborghini, and Maserati, winnowing down the list to just 10 cars is going to take a little doing. With that in mind, here's a Top Ten list of Other European cars from countries with limited manufacturing.

1. Bugatti Type 57. Bugatti itself was somewhat of a rarity, an Italian-designed car made in France. The Type 57 represented a novel, post-war model that broke with Bugatti tradition in veering away from the old chain-drive moves.

2. Volvo 1800. Here's something you don't see every day: A Volvo sports car. Volvo, whose name has been synonymous with safety since the 1940s, has been known for producing staid but safe cars. "They're boxy, but they're safe" was a facetious ad tagline from a movie, but it's pretty much spot on. The 1800 was produced in response to the Karmann Ghia and MGB.

3. Saab 96. The first Saab to be exported, the 96 saw tepid response in the US. It was a two-stroke engine design, common only to chainsaws and mopeds at the time, which was a significant strike against it. This is also a personal choice, as the 96 was the first car I ever rode in - my mom owned one when I was born (and traded it in on a 1978 Buick Regal - talk about a change!)

4. Citroën 2CV. 12 horsepower - less than half of my lawn tractor - and the 2CV was in production from 1948 until 1990. It's got "styling" only a mother could love; severely underpowered; and (as Dave Barry opined) is so small that it routinely stolen by squirrels. So why is it on the list? Well, it is an icon, to be sure...

5. Koenigsegg CCX. o-62 MPH in 3.2 seconds. That's motorcycle fast. Hell, that's racing motorcycle fast. With a twin-supercharger V8 based on the modular Ford V8 and a carbon fiber body, the CCX has been approved for importation into the US, so get those orders in quickly.

6. Trabant. If there was any one thing that was emblematic of everything that was wrong with the Soviet-bloc, the Trabant was it. Produced from 1957 until the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Trabant remained essentially unchanged while the rest of the world enjoyed some of the most beautiful cars ever produced.

7. Citroën DS. With a body designed by legendary Italian designer Flaminio Bertone, the D-Special, or DS for short, was Citroën's "executive" offering. Saying it was a major step up from the 2CV is damning with faint praise, but the DS was quite ahead of its time with advances in braking and suspension.

8. Bugatti Veyron. No self-respecting top ten list of automobiles from Europe would be complete without at least a passing mention of the Veyron. 987 horsepower puts the Veyron in an extremely elite cadre of supercars. 0-60 MPH times of under three seconds and a top speed of over 250 MPH put the Veyron in a class pretty much by itself.

9. Volvo 780. A true rarity in its time, the 780 was a Volvo coupe at a time when the 700 series did not have a coupe available. With styling by Bertone and a 200 HP, turbocharged 16 valve inline four cylinder engine, the 780GT even offered a smidgen of what, for Volvo, could be called performance.

10. Saab Sonett III. Oh, sure, it only had a Ford 1500cc motor under the hood. Sure, the pop-up headlights were operated manually even though the Corvette's had been power for decades. Sure, it offered a whopping 55 horsepower, barely more than the Geo Metro some 20 years later. But, uh, it was red! And sporty... looking. Anyways, it's the last car on the list...


Okay, I managed to get through the Top Ten "Other" European cars. Trying to decide which French cars to offer for a "Top Ten" list is a lot like trying to trying to decide which Japanese firearm should make a "Top Ten" list of best guns...

If you can think of better models for the list, let me know - I'm all out of ideas...

That is all.

UPDATE: car rentals in France

19 comments:

Wally said...

WTF is a BERTONI ? Can you stop this paisan's head from spinning and fix that most egregious typo?

I've owned 10 Bertones over the past two decades. Dialed back to three at the moment...

Jay G said...

::facepalm::

Fixed...

notDilbert said...

Here's two more examples of "French Sports Cars" assumming that's not a self-canceling term.


The Renault Alpine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_A110

and the Lancia Stratos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lancia-Stratos-HF-Group-4-%27.jpg

Drove a "duex cheaveau" all over Paris in 1970. You had to drive it Flat Out everywhere, Perfectly safe ......until something broke .... or fell off.

Wally said...

A Stratos isn't French. They are Eyetalain.

Bertone Shake Proto / mid 60s -> Bertone Runabout proto / 69-71ish -> Fiat/Bertone X1/9 production (72-87) -> X1/20 (scorpion/Montecarlo) Fiat/Lancia/Bertone production) (74-78?) -> Lancia/Bertone Stratos (Grp 4, 76-78ish) -> Ferrari/Bertone Rainbow (proto) ~1978

The Stratos was the refined Scorpion/MonteCarlo chassis with a Ferrari 246 (as found in the Dino) mounted midships in lieu of the 1.6L or 1.8L 4 cyl as found in the more common Scorpion/Monte.

-Wally
Proud-ass owner of a 1986 Bertone X1/9 Volumex, and unofficial Fiat/Bertone/Lancia fact checker of MArooned :-)

libertyman said...

A couple of things -- Ettore Bugatti was a Frenchman. Yes he had an Italian name. But Bugatti is French. Speaking of which, the Citroen DS came out in 1957 and is, and was, as different as if it came from outer space. The name DS is actually a play on the French word for "goddess", and the other model was ID --a play on the French word for "idea". Let's compare the DS to any other car from 1957 or much later. It had radial tires, inboard front disk brakes, oleo pneumatic suspension and the hydraulics ran the brakes, steering and suspension.( You used that suspension to jack the car for a tire change.)Gee Jay, it even had a hemi in it! (Though quite underpowered.) Wonderful cars.

libertyman said...

OOOOPs -- Bugatti was born in Italy, sorry!!! But I guess he became a French citizen. Citroen was a Dutchman who became French as well.

Stretch said...

Volvo 1800: driven by The Saint.

Anonymous said...

You cannot forget the quintessential French Road Rocket, the Renault R5 Turbo. Seen in "Never Say Never Again". Bad movie, great car.

Veeshir said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_GT

The Opel GT, sure it was owned by GM, but it was a German company.
Underpowered but cool looking.

Oh, and Bertoni used to make the best instant pizzas in the world.
They were pretty much toaster-calzones that could be counted on to burn your tongue.

Kevin said...

You forgot Simca.

My first car was a 1969 Simca 1118.

Boxy, but SLOW (and unsafe.)

Rear-engine, 4-spd, 56HP. 0-60? Take your lunch and eat it when you get there.

But it RAN!

Buddy said...

The Volvo 1800 even came in a station wagon variant, although I cannot at the moment remember what the heck it was called... Must be having one of those 'senior moments'...

AngryPatriot said...

Jay...I'm surprised that you missed the quintessential French Road Car of the 70's and 80's...the Peugeot 503.

The car had a phenomenal suspension, with a smoother ride than a BMW or Mercedes. I can remember a friends parents having one, and we took it down an old back road that had turned from asphalt to gravel from years of neglect, were easily doing 50+, and the cabin was barely vibrating.

The electrical systems sucked in the things, but as far as the engineering went, it was easily world-class, and very solid.

Patriot

Black Ice said...

Oh, man...I had a Sonnet III back in the day!! It was beat to hell, but it was an absolute blast when it worked.

I'd give at least one testicle for a mint example... :(

agg79 said...

Buddy you are thinking of the P1800ES (hatchback/station wagon version).

I almost bought a P1800 back in Dallas a few years back, but the deal fell through (needed a lot of work). Sitting inside it was like sitting inside of a bathtube.

The Bugatti Veyron is a neat car, but it doesn't float worth a damn. A guy down here tried to make his into a u-boat back in November:

http://www.gtspirit.com/2009/11/14/video-bugatti-veyron-towed-from-saltwater-lake/

libertyman said...

Look at the accident happening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NJmB1F2mdE&feature=player_embedded


WV "cardo"

PA State Cop said...

Hae a 780 with the Turbo until I blew the rotor. Couldn't get it right after that. Used to get light at 100 but it was in its heaven at 90. Great Car. Supposedly you can bolt up a ford 302 right to the tranny. just have to drop the motor mounts down. Great Car.

Mark said...

Hey where is the Saab 900, not the turbo, not the S the standard 900 like my old 1986 Saab. It would easily go 120+, cornered like it was glued to the ground and sipped gas to give me 32 mpg on the highway. My Ole Saab was a red 2 door hatchback and I'm still kicking myself for selling it. I would like to get another one.

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Unknown said...

Bugatti Veyron. The name itself suggests charisma and speed. A collector's item nowadays but I believe I've seen one here. I think it's in one of the local auto repair shops-Indianapolis area. I remember my brother told me to look at this car during their classic Euro car show last month.

Anyway, one question. Would it be nice to bring my Audi 4 in a local auto service? Indianapolis local car shops are nearest for me to bring it on repair. I'm kind of new here and I've been hearing good reviews about the workmanship of Indiana workers. Of course, I want a pro work on my Audi. Hope I would get an answer. I'm a new car owner. By the way, I'm 19. Just learned how to drive.