Thursday, March 4, 2010

Statute of Limitations...

I had a pretty significant bit of news recently - a longtime friend of mine came out to me. We'd been friends forever - we were in Cub Scouts together, we cruised the beach looking for girls together, we did all the stupid young male stuff together; he was in my wedding party, etc. As we grew older and our lives took decidedly different tracks, we lost touch. He moved out of state. I had kids.

Life happened.

Then I got his address and put him on the Christmas card list, and once a year we threw each other lifelines into our worlds, each taking a peek at the other's different lifestyle. He got a glimpse of the domesticated male; I got to see how a single guy spends the holidays. And then just this past Christmas, his card includes a picture of him with his male partner. They'd gotten married, having moved back into MA and decided to take the plunge.

It was official - he was out, and wanted me to know.

It doesn't matter to me one whit; he's my friend whether he's straight, gay, or trisexual. I look back and wonder just when he knew; whether it was something he realized early on or came to accept as he matured into adulthood, more out of genuine curiosity. I don't buy that homosexuality is a choice; I'm not sure exactly what it is but I don't think normal folks *choose* to be homosexual and subject themselves to ridicule, humiliation, and predation. He's my buddy. End of story. That he's gay means nothing to me, except for one thing:

I can finally stop feeling guilty about nailing his girlfriend...

That is all.

18 comments:

PISSED said...

I can finally stop feeling guilty about nailing his girlfriend.....LOL.. :) snort...

by the way JAy..MOST men are buysexual..we have to pay for it one way or another.. ;)

Lissa said...

Water is meant to be drunk, not spewed. Thanks a lot Jay!

jumblerant said...

Thanks Jay, wet myself just a little bit there.

Weer'd Beard said...

'I don't buy that homosexuality is a choice; I'm not sure exactly what it is but I don't think normal folks *choose* to be homosexual and subject themselves to ridicule, humiliation, and predation."

Not to mention just the logistical problem of being a minority who are only compatible with other members of the same minority.

I mean imagine if only 10% or so of all the ladies you chatted up in your single days were just not into the hardware you had!

I mean you get a bad enough miss-rate with the ladies who weren't interested in ME, not my whole friggin' brand.

FYI on my first trip to P-town I quickly realized that me, and the fishing boat crew were the minority of the straight people we saw. I gained a HUGE respect for what gays go though, as the tables had been turned on me.

Weer'd Beard said...

Then again, I'm a Massachusetts gunnie with conservative/libertarian political views, and I still find plenty of people to hang out with...

ASM826 said...

BWAAHHHAAA! Was it good?

Strike that, the worst I ever had was good. Was it great?

Ted said...

*snort* Hehehe. Your concience is finally clear, huh? Heh.

Weird word verification today - sorecat.

Anonymous said...

Don't really care about anyone's "gayness"; but anyone saying that this is "normal" obviously didn't pay any attention to the "how reproduction happens" portion of their bilogy class, heh.

And I did have several homosexuals in my reserve unit (back before they were "gay"). Only things I really remember was that these dudes ALWAYS knew where the hottest dance clubs were(regardless of what state we were in) and all the females in the unit would have one of them do their makeup before we headed out to the clubs.
emdfl

Sabra said...

but anyone saying that this is "normal" obviously didn't pay any attention to the "how reproduction happens" portion of their bilogy class

Actually, from an evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality makes perfect sense. It--along with infertility (which sucks) and menopause--are natural checks on our levels of procreation.

If you define normal merely as common, then of course homosexuality isn't normal. But it does serve a legitimate biological purpose.

Jay, congrats to your friend. And you seriously need to put a spew warning on this post.

Anonymous said...

I can finally stop feeling guilty about nailing his girlfriend...

Or was the fact that you were nailing his girlfriend the reason that he went into the closet???

Just had to add that. After I cleaned the spew from the screen.

Black Ice said...

"Or was the fact that you were nailing his girlfriend the reason that he went into the closet???"

Likely that. Dude was all like, "Shit, Jay's such a raging volcano of virility that no man on this planet is going to have a chance to compete. I'd better just go gay and save myself the eventual humiliation."

Jay, you really are going to have to issue spew warnings. Busch really hurts when it invades the sinus cavities.

Ross said...

Hey, Jay? Does Mrs G read your blog?

Might want to be a little more careful of what you put in it. Just sayin'.

Jay G said...

Ross, considering that this happened ages before I met Mrs. G., I fail to see the issue.

Besides, I mentioned it to her before I ever posted it.

She laughed, too...

MedicMatthew said...

Geez Jay,
You're really gonna throw off the stereotype- you're hetero gun nut, motorhead, shaved-head biker with a foul mouth and a bad attitude and you *don't* hate teh gayz.

GunGeek said...

"I don't buy that homosexuality is a choice; I'm not sure exactly what it is but I don't think normal folks *choose* to be homosexual and subject themselves to ridicule, humiliation, and predation."

If that's your logic, then how do you explain all the people that continually find themselves in abusive relationships? What about sci-fi convention types, goths, obese people, and speed walkers?

Huge percentages of the population choose to belong to groups that may not literally subject them to predation, but that bring ridicule and abuse of various types upon themselves.

Don't take this as my saying that homosexuality is nothing more than a lifestyle choice or anything, just don't assume that if something has undesirable elements to it that everyone is just naturally going to stay away from it.

MedicMatthew said...

"If that's your logic, then how do you explain all the people that continually find themselves in abusive relationships? What about sci-fi convention types, goths, obese people, and speed walkers?"

Okay, did you just compare those groups of individuals to my acquaintance who was tormented by others to the point of suicide? Or how about my friend who got his ass kicked for walking out of the wrong bar in front of the wrong group of people? How about 15 year old Lawrence King who was killed by a classmate because he was gay?

Seriously? Are you fucking high?!?

GunGeek said...

If you actually read my comment, you'll see that I did compare people that continually find themselves in abusive relationships where their treatment is often as bad as the examples you cited. However, you'll also see that I said this:
"that may not literally subject them to predation".

So, no, I also did not compare them to the people you listed.

Emotions can run high on this topic so it's best to make sure you read what people say before condemning it.

GunGeek said...

I'm just trying to point out a possible fault in logic. To say that because normal people would not choose to do something the obvious conclusion is that it is not actually a choice might not be correct.

There is an alternative. Namely that people making the choice are not normal. Before you go whacko here, I'm using "normal" in the non-derogatory technical sense of the word- outside the norm. Doesn't mean they're a freak or anything.

I could spend all day pointing out the millions or billions of people that literally choose to do or be something that is outside the norm, often way outside the norm, that will subject them to varying levels of ridicule and abuse. Cases where it is still very clearly a choice.

Personally, I believe that there are many things that people can be born with a predilection toward and that would include homosexuality. There is scientific evidence for congenital tendencies for alcoholism, gambling, nymphomania, and violence. I'm sure as more studies are done that more behaviors will be added to the list. Probably even ones that would be considered desirable behaviors.

NO, I'm NOT comparing homosexuality to any of these other things. I'm simply saying that just because a person has a tendency towards something does not necessarily mean that they must behave in that manner.