Wednesday, March 24, 2010

Thought Experiment...

Whilst shooting the sh!t the other day in Gunblogger Conspiracy, the idea of starting one's own private security firm was bandied about. The idea was that, in certain areas, private security firms could operate as a sort of for-profit police force, with fines and fees bringing in the money needed to pay salaries and meet operating expenses.

Naturally, not being all that concerned with the legalities, implications, or other boring aspects, the talk gravitated to what sidearms the security forces would carry. The security company could be eligible for Class III weaponry if it so chose, so the choices for armament would be rather varied. Now, a standard three gun (pistol, rifle, shotgun) complement would be pretty boring:

Pistol: Glock G19
Rifle: AR-15
Shotgun: Remington 870 Riot Express

All three reliable, tested designs that are available off-the-shelf in any gun shop in America. All three firearms are highly customizable; have aftermarket companies devoted to producing every conceivable add-on, accessory, holster, sling, or sights; and are familiar to pretty much anyone with the most basic of experience with firearms.

But what's the fun in that? What about a themed security agency? Match the three guns that your security details would carry to a specific theme. You could even tailor it to the particular area you'd be patrolling. Just think of all the fun you could have designing specialty groups!


You could have an old-school "Wild West" agency:

Pistol: Colt SAA in .45 LC
Rifle: Winchester 1894
Shotgun: Coach gun side-by-side


Or perhaps a "high speed low drag" agency:

Pistol: FN 5.7
Rifle: MP5
Shotgun: SPAS-12


For the rural agency:

Pistol: Colt Official Police in .38 Special
Rifle: M1 Carbine
Shotgun: Winchester 1897


An Eastern European agency:

Pistol: Skorpion vz 61
Rifle: AK47
Shotgun: Saiga-12


Your basic milspec agency:

Pistol: M9 Beretta in 9mm
Rifle: M4 in .223
Shotgun: Mossberg 590A1


Old school milspec agency:

Pistol: 1911
Rifle: M1 Garand
Shotgun: Remington Model 11


and, for the high crime areas like Old Detroit:

Pistol: Glock 18
Rifle: BAR in .30-06
Shotgun: AA-12


What other specialty three-gun setups can you think of?

That is all.

19 comments:

libertyman said...

High demographic towns like Weston: Browning HP Renaissance engraved, Blaser rifle in metric caliber, and a Holland and Holland side by side.

We have too much time on our hands.

TotC said...

For the Stargate crowd

P90
Zatnika'tel
SPAS-12

Weer'd Beard said...

The "MORE POWER" Setup

STI 2011 (I'd say their 6" 10mm double-stack as the obvious pick, tho I kinda like the specs of .45 ACP +P better)

FNH SCAR-17 (Select fire, because its good to have options!)

and Remington 887 Nitro Mag Tactical
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model-887/model-887-nitro-mag-tactical.aspx

Loaded with 3.5" #000 buck!

Can't kill it with that, it can't be killed!

FYI I'm totally missing the Conspiracy! With a little luck my Computer will be back online this weekend!

Weer'd Beard said...

Oh and FYI, Jay, you interest in the VZ 61 is down right unnatural!

SeaDrive said...

Budget Rent-A-Cop

Hi-Point C-9 ($155)
Yugo SKS ($250)
Pardner Protector Pump ($200)

Maybe I'd rather hire an all Beretta company.

Anonymous said...

Also Ran Security:
S&W Schofield
Johnson M-1941
Browning A-5

Lissa said...

But . . . but . . . no Sigs? Where are the Sigs for Lissa?

Jay G said...

Sig doesn't make shotguns, Lissa. Otherwise you would have your very own three-gun security force.

Of course, I've seen you shoot. *You* are your very own security force...

It does beg an interesting question, though: How many manufacturers meet this challenge in their product line? Off the top of my head, Beretta (if the Storm counts as a rifle); S&W (if we count their old line of shotties); Ruger (if an over/under double shottie counts)...

I can't think of any company that *currently* offers a semi-automatic rifle, pump-action shotgun, and semi-automatic pistol in their line-up. There's gotta be at least one!

Newbius said...

Springfield XDm-40 (or XDm-9)
Springfield M14 Select-fire
Mossberg 500 Cruiser

2 of 3 from the same company, and you could carry all three with you if you use the right sling setup.

Stretch said...

Yuppieville Security Service:
Motto: Price is no object

Korth 9mm (they don't even list a price on web site for the weapon. spare mags cost $150!)
H&H matched doubles for both rifle and shotgun.

Quigley said...

For "Old Detroit" I would like this setup on the transport vehicle:

7.62 mm NATO truck mounted M134D (http://www.dillonaero.com/content/p/9/pid/1/catid/0/Standard_M134D) and 100k rounds of ammo. Its the only way to be sure. Oh, and a scoop shovel to clear the brass away.

Knock, knock.
Who's there?
Wall.
Wall who?
Wall O'lead!
...on its way to you.

zeeke42 said...

3gun competitor:
STI or SV 2011 with C-More and compensator in 38 supercomp
tricked out AR-15
R&R targets modified saiga-12 (http://www.randrtargets.com/saiga_shotgun_tactical.htm)

Ross said...

TamK Security:

Colt Hammerless 32ACP
AR-15
Remington 20ga 870
Patrol car: BMW Z3

Weer'd Beard said...

"Yuppieville Security Service:"

A satellite telephone with a big red "911" button. Because guns are icky unless they come with a badge and a stranger who likely has a mustache and a crew cut!

O H Bark said...

A British-legal setup (unless you're lucky enough to get a Section 5 license):

Handgun: Taurus 044 Long Barrelled Pistol (because in the eye of the law, anything shorter would get you dragged down to the level of rapists and serial killers)

Rifle: Ruger 10/22 (Because apparently we can't be trusted with any semiautomatic weapon more powerful than a rabbit fart)

Shotgun: Remington 870 Wingmaster

And that's only if the police think we have a "good reason" to own them, self defense not being one.

Starik Igolkin said...

"Red Dawn" setup:
OTs-33
AKSU-74
Saiga-12 is just shotgun. Is not powerful enough. Need more cowbell:
RG-6

Geodkyt said...

ISn't the AR70 family of assault rifles a Beretta product?

Geodkyt said...

ISn't the AR70 family of assault rifles a Beretta product?

Anonymous said...

The Dirty Harry setup:

S&W model 29 in .44 mag
Winchester model 70 in .458 win mag
Ithaca 10 ga shotgun