I had it brought to my attention, rather abruptly, but necessarily nonetheless, that I was disparaging the great state of Florida with my "drive-by" postings. Now, in my own defense, that's exactly what I was doing - grabbing 5 or 10 minutes of "down time" to dash off a quick note. Which, really, is what I'm doing now as well... But it's not doing the state justice.
Yes, traffic was bad entering Orlando. Yes, I expected it. My comment was meant mainly to point out that we timed our departure to coincide with light traffic in the major traffic centers of the Northeast - Boston, Hartford, New York City, Baltimore, Washington DC., Richmond. The afternoon on 95 South through North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia was blissfully traffic-free, including hitting the Savannah area right around the height of rush hour (5-6). Orlando was, quite literally, the only place we encountered traffic in the entire 1300+ miles.
And Al, commenting on piss-poor drivers is kind of a specialty of mine - please notice the "Road Rage" tag. No traffic = no chance to comment on bad drivers. That's the only reason for the comment about FLA drivers. I suppose I could have made more mention of the fact that VA had about 500 cops on the highway in the time we were on it, or that in GA the speed limit of 70 was apparently just a suggestion, as I set the cruise control at ~ 78 and was getting passed by school buses and construction vehicles.
The comment about Jax, well, I guess we just caught the errant section. It happens. I'm the first to admit that MA has bad sections - I certainly wouldn't want to be out after dark in Lawrence, for instance, or parts of Springfield, for that matter. I'll chalk that one up to fatigue and not thinking about what I was saying before I said it and apologize for the cheap shot.
And lastly, the Klan comment. Lighten the hell up on this one. I would have said the same damn thing if it had happened at Canobie Lake Park in Salem, NH. It had NOTHING to do with it taking place in the south; hell, FLA isn't the south, for crying out loud, it's G-d's Waiting Room, where snowbirds go to live out their Golden years in the sun and warmth. It was the stark contrast between Disney World, the self-titled "happiest place on earth" and what looked at a quick glance like a gathering of Klan members that just struck me as so incongruous as to merit observation. It was a very surreal moment - that's all, no heavier connotations intended.
I've been to Florida five times now - I flew down as a child to do Disney with my family; I took a cruise out of Tampa with some friends before I got married; I attended a conference in Fort Lauderdale as a graduate student; and the past two trips to the land of the mouse with my wife and kids. It's a warm, welcoming place with horizontal traffic lights (that was the first thing I noticed as a 12 year old upon visiting Florida). It's light later, it's warm in the winter and really hot in the summer - it's about as far from MA as one can get and still be in the United States.
I'm sorry I gave the impression that I had something against your state, Al, I don't, really. It just happens to be my current location, and poking fun at wherever I happen to be is somewhat of a specialty of mine - there's a lot to make fun of no matter where you are. Heck, it'd be a pretty boring place if everything was perfect - whatever would we complain about? :) But it appears I struck a nerve, and I can understand that. As much as I hate MA with the nanny state overregulation and imbecilic gun laws, there's a lot I do like, and I'll admit to getting my back up when folks start trashing her unfairly (which, given that it's MA, isn't terribly often that the criticism is unfounded...)
However, I don't think anyone would say I don't poke fun at Massachusetts...
That is all.
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
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Jay, in recognition of your original post label "half-assed humor", your half-assed apology is half-assed accepted.
Yeah, I went off a bit...I guess it's kind of like it must be in Mass when everyone thinks everybody there knows and loves the Kennedys. And you got one thing right; Fla is certainly the place where all the fossils from everywhere else in the nation come to die, and we're pretty well overwhelmed by the old farts. Hell, right down the road from my house they're building a giant Hospice House; they do good work, I guess, but for God's sake, it's a dying place; pretty depressing. That, plus my previous observation that homegrown folks can feel overwhelmed by "elsewheres" when it comes to culture, attitudes, and even politics, has made me relish my visits to the mountains every summer; who wants to feel like an outsider in their own home? And of course, the old adage is true, familiarity certainly does breed contempt, wherever you're from.
You do suffer from one serious but common misconception, however. Florida is not the South? Way off; there's the obvious fact that it is geographically southernmost of the states, but we're talking philosophically and culturally here. The problem for you and most who harbor that impression is that you haven't been here yet. Lauderdale, Tampa, and Orlando? That ain't Fla; the center of the state holds one of the largest agricultural areas in the nation; corn and sugar can as far as the eye can see, cattle operations that rival any western state's. And as I noted once at Tam's, there's still plenty of thumpin' and humpin' goin' on in the Heartland of the state. And it goes beyond that, too. You'll note in an earlier comment I echoed someone else's suggestion that you visit Lakeland over the weekend and its awesome Pistol Club gunshow; had you made it, you'd have bumped into quite a lot of real Southerners, and I don't mean sheet wearers, I mean salt of the earth conservatives, libertarians, and real Americans.
Maybe you'll have a chance to check out the real Florida one day, and if I haven't had my fill of it or been pushed out by folks from everywhere else by then, I'd be happy to give you a tour; I think in person it'd be hard not to like someone who loves family, freedom, guns, and scooters. 'Cause really, no matter where you're from in America, what else is there?
AT
I've always heard that Florida is the "dirty South," actually. :) And it's a horrible, awful place, one that I only visited once last year and once the year before and won't re-visit until this September.
/joking
Jay I truly enjoyed your posts from the road. If you make it out to Blogorado I certainly expect the same style of posts from my home town. Nowhere is perfect and you can always find something amusing to comment on.
As for you AT, you struck a nerve with me as well.
"Hell, right down the road from my house they're building a giant Hospice House; they do good work, I guess, but for God's sake, it's a dying place; pretty depressing."
Apparently you have never worked with a Hospice organization. the hospice house is not a "dying place". It is a LIVING PLACE! They are there to help people LIVE to the best of their ability for the short time they have left. I have worked with hospice three times with three of my family members and they are some of the most outstanding people I have ever met.
I'm not going to get on a rant here but before you go off on someone for what they say you might want to censor your own comments. There is a vast difference between lighthearted comments over traffic ect. and a disparaging comment on people that work extremely hard to help someone live to the best of their ability the time they have left.
Hell, I spent 10 years in Florida... We used to have bumperstickers will the last American out of South Florida bring the flag... and Florida IS NOT the South! It's a conglomoration of Cuban, Hispanic and Snowbirds that all have their own little (or not so little) enclaves and to hell with everybody else... And you also have the blue hair brigade... permanent left turn signals and max A/C in their Caddys all day long. Good friend is a paramedic in Miami, he's been hit THREE times on scenes by blue hairs; it's now to the point he requests the fire trucks to park behind the ambulance just to protect them...
I have to disagree that there's still South left in Florida - there's a highway down the center of the state that, aside from having lots of stop lights and cookie cutter developments, also has plenty of groves, ranches, farms, and when you get to Sebring, near-constant sound of high-octane racing coming from the track. Good folks, great floatplane flying country.
The edges, though - that's a different country.
in GA the speed limit of 70 was apparently just a suggestion, as I set the cruise control at ~ 78 and was getting passed by school buses and construction vehicles.
Hilarious! That is the damn truth if it has ever been told. 70 MPH will get your ass run over down here by sheet wearers!
Small-town Florida is great, extremely Southern. Big city Florida isn't, so much.
FarmMom: way to miss the point completely, ma'am...Jay said Fla is God's waiting room, and that it is. And here Hospice is an enabler, it warehouses dying people way the hell out of proportion to a normal population. When I check out, let me do it in the arms of my loved ones, and if Hospice can help them cope, great. But sick people need to go "home" to do their dyin', and to the degree that they don't, and instead come here in suffocating, overwhelming numbers, they invite the jaded and desensitized response of the local population whose facilities and patience and empathy are overwhelmed.
NFO: Miami, huh? You ain't been payin' attention at all have you? Well, let me reiterate: THAT AIN'T FLA!
Wing and a Whim...that road that runs down the backbone of the state is US 27; it connects the Panhandle to Ocala to Sebring (my town!) to the Lake Okeechobee ag region and to the Everglades...that route, all 300 odd miles of it, interconnects what is for now at least, the real Fla; anyone who thinks that the Mouse and the beaches and North Havana constitute the whole of the thing should experience it before it's gone...but just visit, don't stay 'til your kids warehouse you in a nursing home, ultimately passing from this world in a professional dying place.
Jon: "Small-town Florida is great, extremely Southern." Yep, for now at least.
AT
Good thing you missed the DC rush hour - I learned to drive on the Beltway; and while I am reliably informed by a friend who's driven both Boston and DC that Boston drivers are worse, I think that's DC drivers' only competition...
FLA has some nice spots - I remember a nice trip with my wife to Cape Canaveral AFS (she was working, I was at leisure). I got to wander around the base with a no escort badge and see all the old launch pads.
I remember a nice visit with the Brothers of Harbor City Lodge AF&AM who welcomed a northern Brother in fine style.
And I remember about 9.304x10^23 BUGS. The bugs, the heat and the humidity will ensure that FL forever remains, for me at least, a vacation destination and NEVER a place to consider retiring to.
Nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. It's all yours, AT. And you're welcome to come up here to MA and visit, too, of course! (Heck, we can even arrange to take you to the range. We even got us some gun owners up here!)
Georgia sounds like southern Idaho in that regard.
All cruising along at 80-85, and ... "why is that tractor-trailer rig PASSING me?"
The saying is that you leave the South once you pass Ocala.
I ran to FL quite a bit last year to see my girlfriend, 1500 miles once a month. Jay, be glad you didn't go through Atlanta: I swear by your dangly earrings that they actually speed up in Atlanta, & like you, 78-80 was a minimum speed BEFORE I hit town.
Soon as I can afford it, though, I'm grabbing the fiance & moving to central FL.
AT you missed the point. You are upset with Jay for making comments about Florida.
You made a comment that irritated me.
If you are going to rant about what someone else says then you had better mind what you say too sir.
And while you are at it grow a sense of humor.
Well, ma'am, the exchange you speak of between Jay and me is full of humor and was well...settled between Jay and me. The fact that you seem to think otherwise shows that you did not read or comprehend anything other than what "irritated" you, which was the most humorous bit of all, btw.
To "get" humor or make/take a point, it behooves one to consider the parties involved, the context of the exchange, and most importantly an understanding of what "humor" and "point" actually mean.
"grow a sense of humor"?
Mirror, meet FarmMom; Mom, mirror.
AT
wv: swering...lotta cussing and swering around these blog thingies. (look Farmmom; humor!)
Farmmom...don't feed the troll...
Anony-wuss...don't troll for trolls.
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