Chicago Police Department Roster of “Unsafe Handguns”
Chicago, IL --(Ammoland.com)- The City of Chicago released its roster of “unsafe handguns” that cannot be legally possessed in the City because they cannot be registered with the police as one part of obtaining a license to possess a gun, as required under the City’s new gun laws.
But the list is not limited to hand guns as the law is so vague it can be interpreted as to apply to all guns made by a manufacture.
Read the list. It makes our Approved Firearms Roster seem positively inclusive. I like how Daisy is listed - apparently Ralphie's Red Ryder is not safe enough for the city of Chicago, most likely because of the assault compass in the stock. Reading through the list, it appears they've gotten ahold of a registry of "every firearm manufacturer that ever made firearms in the history of time" and included, well, all of them. Some manufacturers - like Smith & Wesson - haven't made the models in question in well over 100 years. Heck, I'd wager some of the manufacturers listed haven't been in business in over 100 years.
It's hard to see what the city of Chicago thought they'd gain with this stunt. They've been spanked but good over the handgun ban; now it appears that they're poised to get the concept of an "Approved" roster thrown out. With the inclusion of just about every gun ever made on this list, they illustrate the danger to our Second Amendment right to own a firearm - once you permit the government to dictate which guns can - and cannot - be owned, you start the journey to banning. Maybe they have overreached this time, and MA might reap the benefits when the decision is made that such rosters are unconstitutional.
And maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt, too...
That is all.
Link sent by PISSED, who notes the first comment on the article: "Hol crap! Why didn’t they just list the company that they do allow? It would have saved time and paper."
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Hey, somebody's gotta keep Alan Gura busy. Apparently Chicago likes being his whipping boy.
Heh. They're going to have to change the signs:
Welcome to Chicago. Also known as Alan Gura's Bitch.
Daisy made 22s for a little bit in the eighties. I've had a chance to shoot a few and was unimpressed. Thanks to Chicago, I'm tempted to go buy one anyway, just because I can.
Here's a thread with pictures:
http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/69877-daisy-model-2201-rifle-22lr-single-shot-w-scope.html
Seems like a lot of .22s on the list. S&W P-22, Sig Mosquito. Hard to imagine why they don't like the P-22. It's got a loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect, external safety...all things they like on there.
And in maybe another 10-15 years, this will trickle through the layers of red tape and actually see time in a court that'll have any actual power.
Then another five 'till it hits the supremes.
Just had to throw a little sunshine into the picture there.
George - The P22 and Sig Mosquito are banned because they're manufactured with ZAMAK slides.
ZAMAK is a cast zinc alloy (I.E. "potmetal") the same thing Hi-Points & other "junk guns" are made out of.
Chicago wants to ban cheap guns, which is why those are named despite being FULL of useless safety features.
@Stingray: McDonald went from initial filing to decision in only 2 years.
When CA pulled that stunt, a bunch of new mfgs came on line just because they had names that were not on list.
If I was in chicago, I'd be building my own.... Heck, I guess I could do that now and ship them in.
This will be another loss for Chicago in a year or two. The problem for MA is if this should go to the USSC, then the EOPS roster and the AG's consumer safety scam might be overturned as well. All three are blatant attempts to restrict access to firearms at a reasonable cost.
Remember gun control was originally intended to stop poor black people from being able to defend themselves. The "Saturday Night Special" laws aren't intended to reduce crime, just gun ownership. Again, the poor are disproportionately affected. Same with expensive licensing requirements such as Boston uses.
Gun control is never about guns, it's always about control.
We can only hope they are dumb enough to try to strictly enforce this. There is currently a lawsuit in CA concerning their roster. It seems to me we may be in line to have this challenged in different circuits if it gets that far. Different decisions among the circuits virtually assure a trip to SCOTUS. The same decision among the circuits in our favor would give MA residents a good basis in a lawsuit, and decisions supporting the rosters are quite likely to be accepted by SCOTUS just because they seem to want to slap the wrists the circuits concerning firearms. Sucks for now for Chicago, but this could be the building block MA, MD, and CA need to get rid of our rosters.
Is it possible that we're seeing some sort of movie-plot? That theres actually some people in the Chicago bureaucracy that LOVE guns and are secretly suggesting the dumbest ideas to get Chi-town knocked down.
Well, seems likely my Crossman hawgleg .22 cal pump up pistole would be legal for huntin varmints there. I should put a scope and open stock on it to really scare the locals with a assault sniper carbine. After all it's black!
Gads, are they stupid, ignorant or plain insane?
Eck!
*excuse the massive leg pull.
Okay, so why don't we see if we can come up with an "approved" list based on this? If you've got a gun that's not on this list, post it?
Of course Daisy's on the list. You know they're unsafe; you could put an eye out with one of those things!
This doesn't ban any Browning's, nor CZ's, nor Colt Semi's, nor Glocks, nor modern Smiths, nor Sigs, nor Rugers, Nor any 1911's at all that I caught.
Shrug. Compared to the list in MA, this doesn't actually doesn't seem as horrible as i expected out of shitcago.
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